Oliver Herold, a highly valued and very active member of the DBSD community has posted that he is leaving the DBSD community. It is his opinion that DBSD is a dead project. He also has this to say
No it’s maybe somewhat different, I’m actually not leaving FreeBSD or BSD, we do have a Jabber server with Debian and some game/fileserver for FreeBSD. But I’m evaluating it at desktop for some people, mainly beginners.
So actually I’m leaving this forum, because I don’t see anything useful in DesktopBSD anymore. Of course it’s a nice work, but I don’t see any future for it.
-there is no Flash
-there are no multimedia frameworks
-Voip with video is almost impossible
-Wine is crap in FreeBSD
-there is no virtualization
-there are no drivers for digital tv
and so on.
These things I hear again and again (I’m not using Flash or watch TV). People do know open-source lacks a lot of nice things from Windows world, but it’s even worse in FreeBSD.
So what should I tell them? Go away, you have to live like an ascetic to understand open-source or FreeBSD? Some of them are eager to learn, some of them are even found of using the console – but sacrificing almost anything multimedia for example is a dead end for them. I cannot yield any magic, so it’s impossible for me to help them – in the end I tell them of Linux.
Second problem the so-called FreeBSD-community, most of them are heavily afraid of these desktop BSDs. They don’t want them and they don’t support these systems at their forums at all. Of course you will see this crappy behavior in Linux too, but then again it’s only a small fraction of the whole huge community. FreeBSD isn’t able to live such a snobbish behavior. It’s very important to have a healthy community in *BSD, from the desktop, the enthusiast, up to the server admin. Maybe the desktop user of today is some commiter/maintainer tomorrow.
So these are some of my thoughts, I’m really found of this operating system, but I sick of these so-called professionals torpedoing any attempt to broaden the user base of FreeBSD.
» Quote:
What should the BSDs do? As I’ve said several times in the last five years, that depends on what the projects want. But if we want to be seen as a viable alternative for use by non-developers, my big issue is that we need to understand the end user perspective. We can’t just say of any feature â??If there’s nobody there to support it, axe it.â? As long as there are people who want that feature, we need to support it. If we don’t, BSD is gradually going to be usable only by software developers.
Greg Lehey, 2004
And some hype from FreeBSD development,
» Quote:
FreeBSD developer Scott Long told ZDNet UK on Thursday that the operating system, descended from the Unix derivative BSD, is “quickly approaching” feature parity with Linux.
“Lots of work is going on to make FreeBSD more friendly on the desktop,” Long said. “Within the year, we expect to have, or be near, parity with Linux.”
cnet-news
Makes me really laugh, May 12, 2006 and let me see … oh we are now in 2007, almost May
So hurry up FreeBSD development, 3-4 weeks only and then it’s a year … *almost* parity with Linux.
Maybe this sounds a bit polemically but there isn’t anything to hype, apart for nerds like myself or some server admins.
Cheers,
Oliver
And he does have a few good points. However, they’re not without rebuttals
-there is no Flash
-there are no multimedia frameworks
There is indeed Flash, however because Adobe chose to stick with ALSA for the audio subsystem in Flash-9, users of BSD are relegated to using the old Flash-7 branch. This is because BSD does not use ALSA, instead it uses OSS for its audio. It might be possible to get Flash-9 working using something like SALSA, but that’s work for somebody else as it’s beyond me. Alternatively, Adobe could have done as asked multiple times and used GStreamer, a multimedia framework available for both Linux and BSD.
But that’s really neither here nor there, the important part is this:
Second problem the so-called FreeBSD-community, most of them are heavily afraid of these desktop BSDs. They don’t want them and they don’t support these systems at their forums at all. Of course you will see this crappy behavior in Linux too, but then again it’s only a small fraction of the whole huge community. FreeBSD isn’t able to live such a snobbish behavior. It’s very important to have a healthy community in *BSD, from the desktop, the enthusiast, up to the server admin. Maybe the desktop user of today is some commiter/maintainer tomorrow.
And you know what? He’s right.
But at the end of the day, does it really matter? Looking long term, there’ll be a time where the underlying operating system won’t matter. You’ll be able to access your profile, documents, settings, everything from anywhere. Just you watch, client/server application delivery is coming back in a harder, better, faster form called Software as a Service (SaaS). You’ll be able to carry your profile with you on a usb stick, plug it in to virtually any internet enabled computer and immediately be able to work on your documents with any application you’re subscribed to.
What was once known as Application Service Providing has been given a web 2.0 workover, and while I think it will flop, it will pave the way. In ten years you wont even need to carry your profile with you. Merely sit at a computer and voila, some combination of an RFID descendant coupled with biometrics authenticates you, and you simply access your desktop across the internet. We can do that even now, but with our current network links it’d be painful to do with any scale.
So in that sense, perhaps the desktop BSD’s are ultimately an evolutionary dead end; headed the way of BeOS. Maybe they aren’t. I’d personally hate to see them go, as I strongly believe in the BSD code quality before bleeding edge mentality – with a bit of effort from the right people, DesktopBSD and PC-BSD could overcome their shortcomings and actually achieve Linux parity.